While they were building the fire, Ho-Gen heard them arguing about subjectivity and objec-tivity. He joined them and said, "There is a big stone. Do you consider it to be inside or outside your mind?"
One of the monks replied, "From the Buddhist viewpoint everything is an objectification of mind, so I would say that the stone is inside my mind."
"Your head must feel very heavy," observed Ho-Gen, "if you are carrying around a stone like that in your mind."